Help.. to study or not to study???!!

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Help.. to study or not to study???!!

Post by Jordan » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:13 am

soo heres the deal..
I am super confused about weather or not to study this year (i know last minute right)
what I do know is that i LOVE music, always have always will!!
I'm only 19, I've been playing bass for 3 years, keys for a bajillion and I just wanna get into the scene,
I'm not a fancy player, I'm hooked on good feel and groove!
I spose I just wanna somehow get good enough to have a bit of a gig and a good jam, but I dont know how or where
to do this?

Any ideas or suggestions??

Much Love
Jord. =]

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Re: Help.. to study or not to study???!!

Post by Pstewart » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:18 am

Hey man

It's all completely subjective but i just finished my first year of a Bmus in Jazz bass and i personally love it, there's nothing like being surrounded by musicians and music all day, and there are heaps of courses around the place and polytechnics and so on for whatever music floats your boat. I'd say go for it.
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Post by Jordan » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:24 am

Hey Thanks!!

I spose I'm just being a bit lame, and maybe a bit lazy.. ha
are you studying at Auckland Uni? or with Massey?

Its hard to know whats gonna fit aye? like tutors and styles and all, spose you just gotta give it a gamble??
I've always thought of doing the Bmus - Jazz, but its funny coz I've never really learned alot about Jazz?
but in learning jazz you learn everything right?

Is it super time constricting?

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Post by Pstewart » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:38 am

Well it's not for everyone and you've got to look at your options.
I'm studying at the NZSM Wellington which is run by Massey and Victoria down here.
You do need to know atleast a little bit about playing jazz to get in, and you don't learn everything specifically but you learn to be able to improvise and read and cope with situations that you may end up in.

It can be a bit, but never too much, everyone there has other music avenues and ventures they want to persue and there's always time for them if you make it.
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Post by Pstewart » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:38 am

Also waiting for Dan to pipe up because he's already done the Bmus i believe?
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Post by Jordan » Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:39 am

Saweet!
Gonna make a few phone calls haha
Thanks for your help =]

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Re: Help.. to study or not to study???!!

Post by Dan » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:30 am

Heya,

I am here and piping up! (Sorry I've been a bit absent this last week, picked up the new puppy and moved house!)

I did 2 years of BMus before heading off overseas, and as Pat said its definitely worth it......nothing like being surrounded by music all day every day. Plus the contacts that you make will be invaluable.

I'd definitely look at doing a degree rather than a diploma though, if you are going to do it....do it right!

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Post by timi » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:44 pm

Jordan wrote:I spose I just wanna somehow get good enough to have a bit of a gig and a good jam
You need to "study music" to be able to do this?

Unless you are doing some kind of "course" or even a diploma, it will be hard. Everyone I know who has studied music at University level has found it really challanging and time consuming. You don't want to get into this unless you have really thought it through. I know MANY people who have enrolled into the Jazz degree because "it seemed like a good idea" only to pull out after the first year.

If you do end up studying music in some way, make sure there is a big emphesis on songwriting. It is FAR more important than being able to play fancy stuff.

For the record I have never studied music, closest thing was a Sonic Arts paper I did for fun as part of my BA.

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Post by foal30 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:32 pm

you'll need no diploma to jam

but formal study is a great way to go about increasing your knowledge base, solidifying concepts and trying new stuff or approaches.

An argument can be made that all musicians should look at both theory and Jazz. It's good for your brain. After a while things that were difficult become laughably simple :D and then you realize you suck so you practice more :)

songwriting is about getting inspired to feel something and then convey it. I understand you can analysis why Wilson or Costello or Monk or Prince write memorable tunes but if you don't feel it all the study/analysis is not going to help much, in an artistic sense.

Possibly.
best of luck anyway.
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Re: Help.. to study or not to study???!!

Post by timi » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:55 pm

Didn't really mean "study" songwriting as such, meant somewhere that either makes or encourages you to write.

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