Getting your bass into the PA.

Anything recording, Mic / DI or PA related ... gear, techniques, studios, demos

How do you like to get your bass into the PA?

DI only.
6
26%
Mic only
2
9%
Mic and DI.
4
17%
Mic and DI, but use the mic for the tone and the DI for low end on massive PA's.
1
4%
Don't care, as long as the soundguy makes it sound good.
8
35%
Don't care at all/don't know.
2
9%
 
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Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by timi » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:44 pm

This comes up a lot on bass player forums.
I'm going to assume most of you here will DI, but I'm curious to know for sure.

Personally, I play with a pick, use a little bit of overdrive and play through a tube amp so I prefer to mic. If I was playing fingerstyle and clean, I probably wouldn't mind a DI as much.

For those of you who use overdrive/distortion/fuzz as part of your tone or as an occasional "effect" what do you do?

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Post by john » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:47 pm

some sound guys are so stornch (how do you spell that) on you using a di , i had real problems when i used a wha, distortion and hate to say it syb synth pedal. distortion and wha would be to toppie through the horn of the p.a and the synth would loose definition but have huge bottom end. wasnt so bad if it was miked.
mikes have there own problems too on small wooden stages i.e picking up rumble from stage floor and other general noise from gats and drums. can make the mix sound cluttered and hard to mix .phasing could be part of it

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by Dan » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:51 pm

Staunch John ;)

I generally just D.I out of my head, and trust the sound guys capabilites (most of the time heh).

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by foal30 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:34 pm

I do not know why it is a big deal.
You need your stage sound as you like, everything else is pretty much out of your hands.

I hope the sound I hear of myself is transferred to all of the audience but in all likelihood only 5% can tell what's going on and only 1% will remember to care tomorrow.

Don't get me wrong about the role of the soundperson, it's invaluable to form a good working relationship with a qualified individual but that is their job, their pride to get it happening for the punters.

I also know they are not going to tell me how to play Bass. I'm sure as hell not going to tell them anything to do with F.O.H. any requests are stage mix only.

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by timi » Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:22 pm

I guess it depends if you consider your amp to be part of "your sound". I do.

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by Cory » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:32 pm

I have a really pathetic amp. It works well as a monitor but I am always keen to go through a DI

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Post by foal30 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:05 pm

I'll try and be more diplomatic.
What I am suggesting is the concept of "your sound" is difficult at best to be passed to F.O.H.in that state, and you will never actually know that it has been done.

Look, I think your tones Jones is actually quite laudable, and I really like how your always tweaking and trying things, it shows a creative mind.

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by foal30 » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:07 pm

Now It's just sanctimonious.

It's like the thing with the D.I. vs Mic.... when your playing on stage it can't be possible to know, surely?

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Post by john » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:41 pm

who is jones? but yeah i agree sound from your amp on stage can be way different from foh. there is so many factors .
why not just get a valve pre amp ??? once its in the mike its all solid state from there. :lol:

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Post by timi » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:26 am

foal30 wrote:I'll try and be more diplomatic.
What I am suggesting is the concept of "your sound" is difficult at best to be passed to F.O.H.in that state, and you will never actually know that it has been done.
Regardless of whether the soudguy gets a mic or DI singnal from me I won't know whats been done to it (unless I get off the stage at soundcheck, which I usually do), but I would rather give them the miked signal to work with.

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by john » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:34 am

there is a big difference from stepping off stage at sound check in an empty venue to the same venue full of people to soak up the highs and acoustics of the room. let alone the volume changes

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by timi » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:06 am

Well aware of that (I do livesound sometimes), but its better than not going out to hear it.

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by john » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:20 am

i like to get out there my self. i will tell sound man" crank the groove knob more" [he cranks it] i say "yeah remember that level" . i get back on stage and he keeps it that way

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Re: Getting your bass into the PA.

Post by timi » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:35 am

Do you find every nearly soundguy you get makes the guitars barely audible?

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Post by john » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:55 am

timi wrote:Do you find every nearly soundguy you get makes the guitars barely audible?
far from it . are you joking ,like my last post??????????
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