Is there an effect unit that can...?

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Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by definite » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:28 pm

... generate higher octaves and or notes that could potentially be split and sent to another amp? Im interested in seeing how much a bass could make a 'complete' sound!

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by joppo » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:55 pm

You can use an octaver pedal, but play an octave up from where you normally play. That gives an equivalent effect to having an octave up. Wouldn't get you a split signal though...

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by timi » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:28 pm

Your best bet would be a good pitch shifter, but they obviously don't sound natural. Analog octave up pedals are cool but they are really glitchy. Joppo's suggestion of playing an octave up on a regular octave down pedal will probably sound more natural, if that's what you are going for....

You will need something that give you a totally effected sound if you want one amp just to do the effected sound. Maybe you can find something that has a dry out for the other amp, otherwise you will just have to split the signal, no biggie.

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by definite » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:33 am

What I mean is to still play the normal bassline but to generate higher pitches (not just octaves) that can be split and mixed separately. Im curious to know how (if possible) far a single bass can go to 'filling up the sound' !

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by model.citizen » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:46 am

modify your bass so that each pickup outputs separately into a stereo jack (like a Rickenbacker). with a stereo Y-cable, feed one pickup into one bass amp, the other pickup into wherever. and fiddle to your heart's content.

or, spend some serious coin on one of EHX's POG offerings...but ultimately with FX it won't sound terribly natural - octave-down pedals always lose high-end harmonic content which always makes them sound a little flat and casiotone.
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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by timi » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:14 am

definite wrote:What I mean is to still play the normal bassline but to generate higher pitches (not just octaves) that can be split and mixed separately. Im curious to know how (if possible) far a single bass can go to 'filling up the sound' !
So split your signal, run one straight into an amp and the other through a pitch shifter then into another amp.....

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by john » Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:42 am

Doesn't the bosss pitch shifter have two outputs? one dry the other pitch shift?

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by timi » Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:22 am

Highly recommend staying away from the Boss PS5, I played in a band with a guy who had one and it had a lot of latency. Also played in a band where someone had an EHX HOG, also lots of latency.

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by definite » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:47 am

so i guess the question is - what pitch shifters are recommended?

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by timi » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:06 am

I've heard the Digitech HarmonyMan is good, no personal experience with it though.

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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by dannowilso » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:29 am

Another idea would be to just use EQ! Split your signal, go to one amp and dial in your usual bass tone. On the other amp you could patch in a 31 band EQ, roll off all the low end and then go nuts on the mid and highs focussing on the fundamental harmonics, kind of like a 2 way crossover. A nice chorus unit should sound good using this idea too.

If you wanted to get a wicked stereo effect as well patch in a pitch shifter and delay unit before the EQ, step the shifter up a few Hz and use a slapback delay (0% feedback) set to about 40 miliseconds all wet signal on the delay unit.................EPIC HUGENESS!!!!
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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by john » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:07 am

dannowilso wrote:Another idea would be to just use EQ! Split your signal, go to one amp and dial in your usual bass tone. On the other amp you could patch in a 31 band EQ, roll off all the low end and then go nuts on the mid and highs focussing on the fundamental harmonics, kind of like a 2 way crossover. A nice chorus unit should sound good using this idea too.

If you wanted to get a wicked stereo effect as well patch in a pitch shifter and delay unit before the EQ, step the shifter up a few samples and use a slapback delay (0% feedback) set to about 40 miliseconds all wet signal on the delay unit.................EPIC HUGENESS!!!!
Not a bad idea..
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Re: Is there an effect unit that can...?

Post by definite » Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:53 pm

Thanks for the suggestions!!!
Between eq, pitch shifting, a 2nd amp, delay, chorus etc a single bass note or chord could definitely produce some sonic boom! Thats what Im curious to explore - just how much sound can be filled/created off of just bass!

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